2 Column Neoclassical Theme
Quite a while ago, I reviewed the then just released Neoclassical Theme. It has been quite sometimes since and all this while I was secretly hoping Chris Pearson would come up with a 2 Column Version. It looks like this is not going to happen ever as Mr. Pearson has personally stated in one of his replies to one of his comments that he will not be releasing any 2 Column Neoclassical Theme.
I don’t remember when it started, but of late I have grown to prefer 2 Column WordPress Themes. There was a time when I would never look at a theme that has less than 3 Columns. Times have changed and nowadays I do not see the need to insert as many rubbish in my sidebar as I used to. I have come to realized that inserting all those silly affiliate banners never makes me money anyway. LOL.
Anyway, since there is no hope of Chris Pearson ever doing a 2 column version, I waited for some third party to do, but surprisingly, till today, I still have not seen anyone modding the Neoclassical Theme into 2 Columns. So, instead of waiting any longer, I took the liberty of modding it myself.
Spent a couple of hours changing the layout in the stylesheet and some small alterations in the page and post php, I came up with a 2 Column Neoclassical Theme, that looks quite neat indeed. Looks like a little brother to the now immensely popular Thesis Theme
Update (20-02-09)
Did more fine tuning to the theme. Now the theme has a navigation bar just below the header which updates automatically whenever you add in a new page. The original theme needs to be edited manually.
Also added the image alignment codes and the caption borders.
Widened the sidebar to 300 pixels to accommadate 250 x 250 Ads. and the 2 rows of 125px by 125px Ad blocks.
Replaced the plain looking RSS Icon
Rotating Headers Enabled again
Comes with Brownish Black background which can be changed in your customs stylsheet.
Replaced fonts in the sidebar to compliment with the content fonts.
End Update.
You can see a working version right here or at this blog. The header image has been blocked out at the request of the owner as he do not like headers in his blog. If you want back your the rotating headers, all you have to do is to go to open the style sheet. Just below the initial credentials, you will see.
/*—:[ core layout elements ]:—*/
Scroll down until you see this line,
#rotating_image img { display: none; border: 10px solid #eee; }
Change the word, “none” to “block” like thus,
#rotating_image img { display: block; border: 10px solid #eee; }
Update the stylesheet and the headers will show up again.
Update: 4th March 2009
To disable the header images, follow the steps above in reverse.
This is how the latest version looks:
(End Update)
Also, if you have 2 or 3 sidebars in your present theme, make sure you remove all your sidebar widgets before you activate this theme. After activating, you can add back the widgets you want.
As I have only meddled with the stylesheet, everything else remains the same as the original. Be reminded that the original theme have NOT been upgraded to WordPress 2.7 so there might be some little functions not available but it will not be anything major. All other elements like SEO friendliness of the theme and so on remains intact.
Please note that I won’t be offering any support as I myself is self taught and have never received any formal . So if things gets too complicated, I might not have the answers. But if you decide to use the Theme, but you can visit the if you have any problems, however, it has not been updated. Read through the comments and you might find the answers you are looking for.
Update: 08 April 09~Final Version.
This the final version. I will not be updating this Theme anymore. This final version is fully compatible with WordPress 2.7′s threaded comments. To enable this function go to Dashboard – Settings- Discussion. Check the “Enable Threaded (nested) comments” option.
All other features that were available in the older version have been integrated into the Theme so you won’t have to mess with the stylesheet. All customizations can be done in the custom css file.
This version have been tested on Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox 3. All those who have downloaded the version before the April 20th. 2009, please re-download this IE7 compatible current version. Sorry.. can’t guarantee for those using IE6, but you can try. 
Updated: 3 December 2009 – Replaced the comments styling with a simpler look.
LATEST UPDATE: 4TH. FEBRUARY 2010 – This is the latest WordPress 2.9 version.
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Great WP Template. Thanks.
Nice work. Visually, the front end kind of looks like a cross between Thesis and Mimbo.
I’ve been using the original 1.1 version in 2 col mode since it came out. Just delete left sidebar code from the leftbar.php file and use Sidebar 2 in admin widgets.
I added the post date and time to both single.php and index.php files.
I really like the idea of Pages on top as buttons and am currently modifying this version toward becoming the working version on my site.
To enable frames around images add back the formating code from the original:
.format_text img.frame {
padding: 9px;
border: 1px solid #BDCBD0;
background: #EEEEEE; }
And made the comment box larger so commenters could see more of their text. Also made a single set of fonts whenever font: or font-family: is called.
Thanks for you mods!
PIF
hi,
i would like to use the neoclassical original with two columns. I deleted the leftbar.php in the style sheet but how can I extend the middle section all the way to the left of the page where the left tool bar was?
Really appreciate your help and dialog.
A.
Hi Andrea,
It’s not as simple as just deleting the left sidebar. There are many adjustments that have to be done in the stylesheet as well as in all the other php files. Why not use my ready modified version?
The left sidebar has already been taken out.
ok great i am going with your theme and happy to do so, thanks for all your work.
Also I fixed the overlap issue with the buttons – they now stay with in their respective bounds and do not overlap when selected.
Hi PIF,
Your version looks unique. Good Job.
Hi, very nice theme, sidebar doesn’t sit properly in IE6 though.
Looks okay on my side with IE 7.
6 not 7… the sidebar content is sitting below the main content area instead of beside it.
But why is anybody still using IE6?
It has problems reading css. Web designers hates it.
Thanks for the compliment Costa! If you and Simon are talking about the sidebar on my site, well, I really know little how to make anything look good in IE v. x since I only run a Mac. However, the Browser Shot from 11/6/8 for IE6 Win 2000 reveals that Simon is correct. Fixing this may be more that simply allowing more space for the sidebar to slide up in IE6. Any suggestions – outside of running a win pc?
Thanks again
PIF
Pif,
Honestly, I thought Simon was referring to this theme. LOL
Anyway, don’t lose sleep over that minor problem. I really don’t understand why there are still people who haven’t upgraded to IE7. If they have Windows Update turned on, it’s an automatic upgrade.
IE7 still have issues with reading CSS though not as bad as IE6. Sometimes it shows the wrong colors even. That’s why many webmasters include the sentence, “Best Viewed With Firefox” in their sites. They have practically given up hope on IE
Am kinda’ a perfectionist sometimes – meanwhile. since I installed StatPress Reloaded plug-in last month the majority of hits by far were from people/something using IE 6 – these do not seem to any issues with any other browsers currently in use on any platform – at least according to the images from Browser Shots.
Costa,
Have the reworked 2 col up and running – check it out. DL the css file which I heavily commented, if you want.
column neoclassical/style.css
the link broke across the LF so copy all and paste else will get 404.
Wow, that’s neat!
one minor problem though. I tested it in one of my blogs and the rotating header is misaligned if the original images are used.
You are good, PIF. I’m cracking my head trying to include threaded comments in the Theme. Have tried all the tutorials I can find, but somehow could not make it work. Maybe you can have a crack at it?
Post the codes in your blog and I’ll link to it. This way you will get all the credit.
Is the implementation of threaded comments done via css or php? If php, then I must admit knowing zero php. All I do with the php files is make piddling changes like h2 becoming h2=class “whatever”, and so on. Mostly just html. I’ll check my Adobe css stuff and see if anything there. Will let you know – maybe this week.
I do no care for the rotating image bit. I find screen redraw when switching post/page distracting from what I consider the main purpose of a blog – the reader being able easily read what is presented. So I use only the one image for the logo.
I know there is a lot of people who thing huge amounts of too often garish theme images to be the end and be all of a theme. Using images for images sake do not make a usable theme in my book.
As for the correct alignment of the original images – that’s up to the guy who p’shoped them. Most people using the theme would not even try to make a new image – let alone 5. If they like the included images they will use the theme – if not, on to some other theme.
Opps. Some quick checking and yes php required – javascript also. Not only modify comments.php but header.php also. Will stick to design. Good luck. Let me know when you succeed.
f a theme is properly enabled (or you update it) there’s quite a bit of flexibility.
Scratch all that – according to
You have threaded comments -
“If you see a Reply link after each comment… then your WordPress Theme supports Threaded Comments otherwise it doesn’t support it”
I was confused because the DL you provide does not. I thought it might be my tinkering, so I used a clean original of the DLed 2 Col, but no treaded comments available.
You seem to have succeeded….
I’m using the threaded comment plugin.
Cheater
Here’s a theme design problem you might want to investigate:
Notice the Page blocks across the top – see how the blocks fall willynilly in length according to the length of the Page name? See how that Page block stretches across the entire header area (the ul#nav css)?
On your page that leaves a huge area to the right with nothing in it – an unused blank space of grayness.
If you had more page this would fill in, but once you got to a certain limit they wold spill over into a second line. However, you might still be left with a second line with the same blank gray to the right.
Then another wrinkle comes if your page names are longer than one word – like mine. How does one position the page names in some order that makes sense as well as filling evenly the entire bar?
One can adjust the page number up or down which can help, but still there will be some unused space remaining. One workaround is to use many non-breaking spaces to the left and right of page names. This will stretch the page names to fill the available space. But that only works until you edit the page – then the lengths readjust and the unused gray space reappears.
Seems to me that a cleaver coder might be able to tell WP to make that adjustment automatically. What do you think?
PIF
I figure this can be achieved in the stylesheet, but I won’t be cracking my head over it. Most if not all themes do not pay attention to this aspect as WordPress is not supposed to used that way.
What I meant was, all those articles are not supposed to be posted as “Pages” but as “Posts” It is bad on site SEO .
If I wanted prominence to certain posts I would use the “popular posts” plugin and have all those posts that you have added as pages shown in the sidebar.
The navigation bar will be used only for the About Me, The Archives or Sitemap and Contact. These pages should also be “non-indexed” so you don’t get penalized for duplicate contents.
We want the archives or the Sitemap at the top because when search bots comes the first thing they will see are all the posts we have in our blog and they will crawl all those posts thereby getting them indexed individually.
On the other hand, we don’t want them to index the Archives because then there will be indexing 2 same posts, causing a duplicate. Hope you understand what I am trying to say.
How you structure your blog has a big effect on Searches from Google. If you check each php files in this Theme, you will notice that Chris Pearson has added a lot of “no follow” tags in lots of places to prevent the search juice from diluting too much and spreading too thin. That why Chris Pearson’s themes are considered to be the best for SEO .
I would suggest you re-structure your blog a bit. No point looking unique and all but not getting any increase in traffic right?
Humm. You are probably very correct. I know almost nothing about how bots work or why. What you said sounds reasonable. I’ve also been working over another theme for possible use because it uses treaded/nested comments and gravitars, but, looking at the php, no follow is a rarity.
Maybe I should just bite the bullet and buy Thesis. Clicked on your get Thesis link – goes to the info page, not the buy page
Back in the good ol’ days traffic was determined by how may links you could get. Back then, I knew all the players in the fishing industry so it was just a matter of time and effort to contact them. But today, most traffic seems to be driven by search engines, email, and links to some other blog’s post.
So maybe I’ll go back to the pages in the sidebar look – will try popular posts as well – even though traffic volume remain fairly constant – avg 40 unique@day, and the usual spikes over 150 sometimes.
Thanks!
PIF
On the top navigation, there is a “Get Thesis” link in bold.
From what I read, the 1.5 version is going to be really awesome!
Great theme! Looked at the Golden Retriever Site and they have removed the rotating banner and added an image. Would I follow the steps above to insert “block” after rotating image?
And how would I ad a custom static image at the top?
Thanks!
Cara
Oops, I meant “none” instead of “block”…it worked fine.
Question is about inserting image in header space…what is the best execute?
Thanks!
Cara
Cara,
For instructions and the codes to use refer to this post.
Clickable Header Image For The Neoclassical Theme
Is there an way to switch the columns so the sidebar is on the left instead of the right?
I believe there is. I’ll try out the codes before posting it ok?
found what I think is a html error in the 2 col header php:
the div after div id logo should be div id tagline, not h1.
Else when switching from index to a page the tagline changes causing the screen to jump. One can fix this in css, but is easier to just change to header statement.
Still haven’t figured out how to display only certain pages across the top and exclude others – easy to do in sidebar.
PIF
I don’t think that is possible in this theme. Displaying pages of your choice in the nav bar, I mean. The Thesis Theme let’s you do that in the option page though, but then, that’s a very advanced and sophisticated theme.
The easiest way would be re-post all those articles as “post” and then delete those pages. After that you can have the plugin to display them in your sidebar.
BTW, about the greyish area on the right. It looks very obvious if you view it on a wide screen monitor. Seems like you have removed some codes that holds the layout to the center and the layout has taken the default alignment. I’ve checked all those who are using this theme and all looks okay, including this blog.
Yes, I did that deliberately. But then I only have a tiny 19″ CRT to work with.
Maybe I’ll fix that later –
Cheers,
PIF
Oh yeah, despite what you said about pages in the header being bad for SCO, my traffic is up – user hits and mega spiders. Go figure…
Give credit to the Neoclassical Theme Pif, the navigation bar is only a very minor issue. I’ve seen increased traffic in all my blogs after changing to this Theme.
Just goes to show the SEO skills of Chris Pearson when he designs a theme. He’s my hero, though he is almost half my age. LOL.
I’ll be modding his copyblogger theme next. It also has killer SEO codings.
Now here’s a problem. Go to YOUR search box and “accidentally” type in some random characters – or even a badly misspelled word. Nice php warnings eh?
Is this fixable or something in WP itself?
Found the fix! Go to search.php and change this line:
to
the theme assumes 2 side bars so this seems to fix it.
darn!
from
?php include (TEMPLATEPATH . ‘/left_bar.php’); ?
to
?php include (TEMPLATEPATH . ‘/right_bar.php’); ?
Hey, Thanks for the heads up! I missed that totally.
Now i gotta re-upload the download file.
I had a hell of a time getting it right – what worked on my local server didnt work on the host server. Fixed it by using the original search.php from the original Neo and adding Neo’s left_bar.php – but deleting all code from left_bar.php. Works on both servers now.
In other news, I added back auto so the page expands dynamically –
Also overhauled the comments css again – looks better now – still one or 2 niggly issues.
My comments are not appearing, though folks are making them.
Any insight on how to fix?
Where did the comments go? spam? or pending moderation?
Check your comment settings under “discussion”
Morning Costa,
An other thing you might consider fixing: the style.css file.
validation W3C failed with 5 errors and 34 warnings.
Cleaned mine up this am.
PIF
Hi Pif,
Yup, I know. LOL.
Have been really busy with my other sites, but I’m cleaning and touching this Theme up when I get the time. It’s quite time consuming as you might agree.
Anyway, I’m doing a small overhaul to weed out the bugs and will be uploading an improve version real soon. There will be some changes to make it look really like the Thesis Theme, which I am quite obsessed with.
Should be ready in a week or two.
!!! Great !!!
Can’t wait !!
Hi
Just been building my site and loving the theme. When I try to open it in IE (any version), it doesn’t get past the header. Thinking I had messed something up, I tried the Zero Interest Credit Card live demo link, which has the same issue. Is the theme broken or am I broken?
Hi James,
No it’s not you. The fault is on my side. I’ve corrected the mistake but still can’t get he header to pad nicely like what I get in Firefox.
Problem is it looks perfectly okay in IE offline when I was modding it in Xammp so I am having some problem pinpointing the problem unless I do it live.
Will re-post the download link once I get this issue sorted out.
Thanks for informing me.
There is something wrong with this file. It shows all the code on the “theme” page in the admin.
Hi,
Sorry I missed your comment yesterday.
I think you might have a bad download. I downloaded it to my test blog and it seems okay in both IE7 and Firefox.
Try downloading again maybe?
Well, what do you know, it worked now!
Something was screwy on my side then…oh well.
Thanks for your time and energy Costa, it is much appreciated!
you are most welcomed, mate.
Hi,
I am having fun with your theme! Wondering if/how to turn the related posts feature off.
thanks,
Andrea
Oh! and also how do I edit the footer? I will keep your credits though ; )
Hi Andrea,
I think all you need to do is to de-activate whatever “related post” plugin you are using as that is not a default feature.
To edit the footer, go to your Dashboard-Themes-Editor-Footer php. Change whatever you like. I don’t mind.
Remember to save a copy before doing anything in case you accidentally deleted something that should be there.
Open footer php, right click – select all – copy. Then paste it in notepad. If you screw up, simply copy back this original file.
Enjoy your fiddling! It’s lots of fun as you go along learning how to do your own modifications!
Hi Costa,
I final got round to install the final version on localhost. After much fussing and fooling arond I got it to look like the earlier version.
I tried out the magazine theme, like the look, but it will not allow both the site header image and the text site name with tagline. One of the other. So no go on that theme.
I also upped to WP 2.8 beta 2 and you theme works fine.
cool ! tq
You are God’s gift to webdesign, I spent hours trawling tghe net in search of a theme like this with 2 columns and the pretty much the same as Neoclassical.
many Man thanks, I’ve found what I wanted!
my pleasure mate. hope you enjoy the theme.
Firstly, thanks for the theme.
I wanted to use it as a CMS for pages instead of posts but I don’t think that it will work? Right?
Also, I am trying to get rid of the “home” as the first link. I see that you did a “no follow” but many people think that the anchor text still counts which means that according to the first link priority theory the template will be promoting the word “home”. Am I correct?
This seems like it is added automatically and I could not get rid of it.
I would appreciate your input.
Thanks!
Hi Nicole,
Yes you can use it as a CMS. Follow the instructions in my post:
How To Turn Your WordPress Blog Into A CMS
The “no-follow” is suppose to avoid getting penalized for content duplication. Most blogs don’t use excerpts in the home page. So theoritically, you will have 2 similar posts when Google crawls your site. One in the Home page and one in the post page. It has nothing to do with the word Home.
To remove the Home link, just follow instruction in the post I mentioned above.
To sort out the order of the page you prefer to use as the first link, use the Order attribute when you are writing your page. It’s on the bottom right side of your page editor. Just type in the number you want the page to be seen as. If you want it to be the third link, type 3, but make sure you have the 1st and 2nd link in order first.
Hope you get what I’m trying to say.
Hey Costa…thanks for the great work on this theme! I am still learning my way around but have made it my own style.
Unfortunately, I’m very brand new to the custom css (or css at all) and just don’t get it! I screwed something up, I think.
I was trying to add autodiscovery for my feedburner feed, and added a code to the header.php file. Now my feed won’t validate. I assume that’s from my meddling. I get these errors: This feed does not validate.
*
line 40, column 82: XML parsing error: :41:0: unclosed CDATA section [help]
… closing HTML tag. Check your theme. –>
^
In addition, interoperability with the widest range of feed readers could be improved by implementing the following recommendation.
*
line 13, column 97: Self reference doesn’t match document location [help]
… rel=”self” type=”application/rss+xml” />
What the heck did I do?? Any idea how I can fix it?
Thanks again for all your work. Appreciate it!
Coree
Hi Coree,
Honestly, I have no idea what you have deleted, but it looks like you have accidentally deleted a closing tag.
Anyway, if it is just the header file you have meddled with, a good workaround which I always use is to replace the whole file with the original.
I assume you still have the original with you, else just download the whole thing again. You don’t have to re-upload the whole Theme, just copy the header php file and paste it over the one you have screwed up. Do the same thing for any other file that you may have messed up.
Saves a lot of trouble shooting and heartache. LOL.
Lastly, why do you need to add auto discovery for your feedburner feeds? Just use the feedburner plugin. It will redirect all feed subscribers from different feed readers into your feedburner feed count.
Hi Costa,
thanks for the quick reply. I was thinking the same way as you on replacing the header file. I did that, hoping it would solve the tag, but it didn’t.
I really haven’t made many other mods other than the header image and adding some text widgets.
I’ve read on Problogger & elsewhere that the autodiscovery code needs to be added to the header file with the feeedburner address for your feed to be found by other sites (like facebook). That’s why I tried to change it.
But I notice that the Atom address that shows in the error has my main feed address rather than feedburner. How or where do I edit that?
Error:
Self reference doesn’t match document location
Ugh!! I am not a designer/programmer, and I now I know why!!
Thx again.
Coree,
Sorry to hear that.
If you have replaced the header file to it’s original form then the problem is with your feeds, not the theme. Feedburner is not reading your feeds.
Try using the original feed link which is and you will see the error.
Two things. Go to your feedburner account, go “troubleshootize” and see if they have a solution there.
If that fails,
Burn a new feed.
Download the feedburner plugin after you have successfully burned the new feed and enter your feed details in the feedburner option page after you have activated the plugin.
Leave the header php alone and don’t change the default feed link. The plugin will do that automatically.
Hope that helps. That’s the limit of my knowledge in this issue. LOL.
Thanks for all your help, Costa. You are a gem!
I found out that it was the “WP Related Post with Excerpt” plugin that was screwing everything up! Once I deactivated that I was good to go. Yay!!
One other thing I noticed is that my Google Friend Connect & Facebook Networked Blog widgets are much larger on this theme. Is there a way to have them show as the same size as before?
I think I may have too many widgets activated, because not everything is showing at the bottom. Is there a limit on how many widgets you can use?
Thanks again for all your help! I know you work hard.
Hi again Coree,
Well you do have a very “buzy” sidebar there. LOL. On bad days it will to a certain extent, bog down your blog’s loading time.
Bout the size of the widgets, I really do not know. Have never used them. Don’t they let you specify the size you want when you choose the widget like the one with MyBlogLog?
Hi Costa,
Hmm, maybe that explains why I want to throw my computer across the room when I wait for my blog to load. I don’t want my blog to seem too busy, darn it. That was the whole reason I switched to the this theme.
I have been using the BlogHer network to run ads, but it takes up a lot of room on my blog & they require that ads be above the fold. The payout is almost as small as AdSense.
I want to remove those and just place a simple banner below the header, but not sure how to do it with this theme. It’s all so different with the custom css, I don’t understand how to do anything anymore.
How would I add a banner that displays on each page under the header? The custom css file? Do I use a “hook”, and wtf is a hook?
Thanks, Costa!
Coree
Hi Coree,
I see you have a banner stucked at your top left corner.
To make it appear under the header, go to
your header php. Paste your codes immediately BEFORE the last closing /div
To align the banner to the center, add these additional tags before and after your banner codes
<div align="center">All Your Codes Here</div>However, I feel it would look kind of awkward. It will look better if you can get the 468 banner and put it before your content. Then it will look neater. To do that you will have to paste the codes in 2 places.
In your Main Index php. paste your codes immediately after
<div id="content"></div>In your Single php paste your codes immediately after
<div id="content_inner"></div>
Hi,
Thanks for doing this, just what I need. Easy question for you…
Where in the stylesheet can i change the dark grey border colour to white? Had a hunt around but I’m a bit of a rookie.
Thanks.
Hi Evans,
In the custom css. Under the comment,
“This codes changes the background color”
Inside the “.custom #container” tags,
Find the words, “border: 1.5em solid #ffffff;”
The 1.5em defines the size of the border, the #ffffff defines the color. (Might be different from yours.)
Change the size and color of the border to whatever suits you.
Great! Thanks Carlos, knew it would be right there staring me in the face.
Great theme! Thanks!
Hi Costa…I’m back again!
Thanks so much for all your support. You’ll see if you visit my blog that I’ve done a bit more tinkering and got rid of the annoying banners all together.
My question now is, I just realized that my footer is not showing at all. I looked in the index.php file and see the get_footer call there, but it’s just not showing up. Guess that would explain why my Google analytics was screwed up for a while. Had to go into the header file and add code there…didn’t even realize the footer wasn’t there.
Now I’d like to add a disclosure or TOS link to the footer with the new FTC ruling breathing down our necks. Went to add the link and realized there is no footer!
Can you give me any ideas? Thanks again !!
Coree
Hi Coree,
Without looking at your Theme codes, i will not be able to ascertain what’s wrong but I did look at your source codes and there are big bunch of javascripts and ajax codes there, so I figure some of them might have screwed up the footer php file.
What you can do is replace the whole footer php file with the original one and then add in whatever you want piece by piece. Then you can pin point which is the culprit and stop using those altogether.
Hope that helps.